Force Orb, page 159

You throw a force ball at someone up to 20 away.  Its an encounter power.

It says:

Secondary Target:  Each enemy adjacent to the primary target.

Code:

O X
  Y O 

X is my target.  O and O are buddies in my party.  Y is a buddy of X.


So does that mean I can throw the ball at X and the secondary hits Y but not my buddies?  Can I choose to make it hit one of my buddies?

I wouldn't call it "friendly fire", I would call it ass hole fire.

Yeah I am figuring 4.0 has a huge streak of the cartoon in it, I am 99% sure it will only hit enemies. It does not really make any kind of sense but there you have it. It is like shooting threw 5 of your allies and not have even a chance to hit one of them, or having any difficulty. It sure does make the game smooth though.

Coming from someone who is trained with a composite recurve, and a compound bow, and uses that training to actually kill living things that move and run away let me suggest that it is EXTREMELY likely to hit someone in front of someone else, especially if they are in chaotic melee combat.

I just had to say that before someone tries to completely distort all sense.

"It was kind of rediculous in 3.X being ten feet away from a foe" Not in the slightest, especially if they are fighting. Try it. I have a bow in the house, pull it back and tell me how easy you think it would be to hit someone.

"if we wanted to make the game realistic, the first thing we would do is throw out levels two through twenty..."

Realistic? We have gone from 3.x which was trying to be realistic, to 4.0 which does not try in the  slightest to be. Some things in 4.0 push the boarders of even make believe. I like 4.0 smoothness and balance but I would have to roll back a bit of it to be able feel comfortable with it. When you have level 1s with bows and swords, you are not yet in to 6-20 levels but it already feels like it. For me there is only so much reality I can suspend unit things start getting stupid.

the DM should not change things to suit the group. he should make things happen that amuse him, group be damned. if it would be funny for the arrow to hit the other ally instead of the enemy, so be it. if the enemy is full of poisonous gas released by piercing attacks, then the arrow should hit him even if it is not aimed his way and the shooter rolls badly anyhow. the DM should always be amused, the players are just there to facilitate this. it is a megalomaniacal system built for only one person's enjoyment; remember that and no one will be hurt.

as for area effects in magic hitting who and what the caster wants when he wants subject to the size of the spell, well, i figure it is magic, not a flamethrower, so the caster should have control over how it shapes up and whatnot. whatnot. whatnot. whatnot.

whatnot.

remember this as well my children: if we wanted to play reality that badly we'd go to work everyday and pay bills and discuss politics and gas prices and call that an amusing time. but let's face it, reality isn't fun, so we make

stuff up and call it a game and don't balance our checkbooks while doing that. accounting isn't fun to roleplay any more than going to some boring job and dealing with boring coworkers.

and whatnot.

aww... that takes the joke completely out of context.